Problem: "Toshiba Satellite A300" shuts-down hard during boot-up.
Problem with "Toshiba Satellite A300". Shuts down hard during bootup.
Ram 3GB
Satellite A300 PSAGCE-0c500wce
With or without it inserted, the computer boots up, but right after the Windows logo appears, it shuts-down, consistently.
I tried to boot up from some linux-live-usb distributions. I was surprised to see that with some it would work, with others the same problem would appear.
This would happen with and without the HD attached to the computer. I thought the HD could be causing the failure.
I narrowed it down to the boot parameter "acpi=off". With it in the kernel parameters of the boot process, the linux would boot up without problems.
Maybe this problem is fixed with a BIOS update (it has never been updated on that laptop), however there is a problem... Toshiba website and support for this model is gone. There are BIOS updates out there, but not from Toshiba. So you either play the cards or not.
I returned the laptop to my friend with instructions on how to boot in that way.
Luckily it didn't have any of the many other problems that Model can have (I researched a lot).
I also learnt about about https://www.hirensbootcd.org
It is like a Linux-live-usb but with Windows. Unfortunately I didn't find the way to prevent it from talking to the ACPI so within seconds/minutes of booting it would cause the shutdown. But it is good to know it is there if you need to update the BIOS and you require a Windows for that (because the vendor gives you a .exe ) and you don't have a Windows around.
Hope it helps others.
- Some extra details:
Ram 3GB
Satellite A300 PSAGCE-0c500wce
- Problem:
With or without it inserted, the computer boots up, but right after the Windows logo appears, it shuts-down, consistently.
- Some troubleshooting:
I tried to boot up from some linux-live-usb distributions. I was surprised to see that with some it would work, with others the same problem would appear.
This would happen with and without the HD attached to the computer. I thought the HD could be causing the failure.
I narrowed it down to the boot parameter "acpi=off". With it in the kernel parameters of the boot process, the linux would boot up without problems.
- My guess:
When Windows/Linux tried to communicate with the BIOS to get ACPI information, whatever the 'dead-or-missing-battery' was responding/not-responding was causing the computer to shut-down.
Maybe it was not designed-and-tested to work with no battery.
Maybe this problem is fixed with a BIOS update (it has never been updated on that laptop), however there is a problem... Toshiba website and support for this model is gone. There are BIOS updates out there, but not from Toshiba. So you either play the cards or not.
- Workaround
Knowing how to successfully boot Linux I looked for a similar way on Windows. It is the "Rescue Mode". Just press F8 repeatedly right after pressing the power-button. It will instruct Windows (W7 I believe it was) to give you a menu and choose what to load.
I returned the laptop to my friend with instructions on how to boot in that way.
- Misc
I also learnt about about https://www.hirensbootcd.org
It is like a Linux-live-usb but with Windows. Unfortunately I didn't find the way to prevent it from talking to the ACPI so within seconds/minutes of booting it would cause the shutdown. But it is good to know it is there if you need to update the BIOS and you require a Windows for that (because the vendor gives you a .exe ) and you don't have a Windows around.
Hope it helps others.
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